Who said Iran doesn't have a Shah today? Mageh, Ali Khamenei *ir'e kharreh?

Dear AO, those concessions and compromises you very eloquently articulated above could have been appealing and acceptable to the mollas and their constituencies to support the late Shah but what about the Commies, Tudehies, MEKs, the Meli-Mazhabies, and the rest of the be pedar o modars who had hell bent to see the destruction of Iran!?

Good day for this topic; 4th of July.

A few years back we had this discussion and some including you A.O. participated: http://iranian.com/main/2010/jan/center-universe.html 

better know thyself better than your enemy.

من را نخواستند،من رفتم؛

*اگر فقر میخواستید
*اگر درد میخواستیـــد
*اگر اعدام میخـواستید
*اگر تجــــاوز میخواستید
*اگر تحریـــــم میخواستید
*اگر تــــــوهین میخواستید
*اگر بیــــــــکاری میخواستید
*اگر گـــــرانی میخواستیــــــد
*اگر بـــــــــدبختی میخواستید
*اگر بدهی جهانی میخواستیــد
*اگر کشتار عزیزانتان را میخواستید
*اگر واگذاری دریای خزر را میخواستید
*اگر بی اعتبـــــاری جهانی میـخواستید
*اگر زیر سلطه چین و شوروی را میخواستید
*اگر واگذاری سرمایه ملی به عربها را میخواستید
*اگر حجاب و تو سری خوری برای زنان میخواستید
*اگر دزدی اموال ملی و خروج ثروتهای نفتی میخواستید

چــــــــرا به خودم نگفتید؟!!!

"محمد رضا شاه پهلوی"

AO jan

It is a good list and all, but keep one thing in mind, that family was way too good and was way more sophisticated that they could not have apparently lowered to them to this level. I see the humor in your message, but believe it or not,  even if they had done so, no guarantees that this same radical people would have given them any credit.

Our people are well-known self-haters and do anything to bring one another down.

Dear AO,

Very good list :-), although you cannot beat molas in their own game. 

I'd like to add this one to your list.

- Stayed in the country.

On a different note, I think our fate provided the necessary red light for the Turkey and Egypt not to fall in the trap of the political Islam.

We have to constantly remind ourselves of one legal fact: Shah was not supposed to be in "power" in the first place. What brought him and his filthy family down was his own gross deviation from our 1906 constitution. And that's that.

میگن به آخوند باید ۵ تومان بدی که بره بالای منبر و ۱۰۰ تومان بدی که بیاد پایین! به آخوند جماعت نباید رو داد. این پیشنهادات بنظر من نتیجه کاملا معکوس میداد

Aside from these humorous comment on this blog, I have to add that BBC Radio Farsi language dispatched from London played a major role in 1979 disaster. The radio was saying there is a big demonstration on Taj ave tomorrow at 10 a.m. Everybody was going to see what would be happen in that demonstration. Finally, Tehran government control radio said that it seem BBC has magical power that goes everywhere and see everything that doesn't excist.  Now, was BBC radio taking order from British government ? That is NOT clear because there were so many anti shah people who were working in that radio at that time. They were all Iranians, so those people might have been guilty for misery of our people for 36 years. Some of them were in Konfederation students. They were all against shah and they were continuesly making demonstrations against shah. So BBC radio source for leading the revolution is NOT very clear that this point.

Another factor was increasingly gap between rich and poor. The oil money went to the pocket of some people such as Hozhbre Yazdani, while many other Iranians were deprived from that oil money. Revolution from outside point of view had a religion reason, but from inside point of view,  people who atteneded revolution were looking for a better life. 

".........people who atteneded revolution were looking for a better life."

This may be partially true, but whatever (external) elements were at work to materialize this shameful islamist take over of Iran was done using the religious element AND IT WORKED .....and still working.

Some iranians have this nasty habit of wanting religion on their side when things go wrong, but when everything is nice and great it was they , who had the smarts and intelligence to make it all happen.

Basically a bunch of opportinists who go anywhere or do anything to get what they want.

I was hoping hamsadeghadimi a other old timers would chime in here! Personally, I think the Shah's regime should have legalized same-sex marriage among mollas and commies and tudehies. All problems would disappear in Iran.

Thank you all for the comments. I will post some personalized responses later. For the time being, I will be remiss if I don't post the wise words of my aunt when it comes to Iranians in general. She often says:

"We Iranians will never get anywhere until we realize that for the most parts: a) we are a backwards, ultra-religious, Third World nation--and have been for the past 1400 years when we were infected with the virus of Islam; 2) that we are not God's gift to humanity; 3) we don;t know everything about everything; 4) we aren't particularly that smart--certainly not emarter than the Europeans, the Americans or the Asians; and 5) we need help from others to move forward. Until we realize these crucial facts, we will still be stuck in the 7th century, beating our chests for some dead Arab guy who had a family feud with his cousin about who should be king of the lands that they had stolen from other people." 

AO jan

May those words be framed in gold. Let me just add that there is not even a shred, not one shred of evidence of the existence of this arabic gentleman , and everytime one asks for evidence , you will encounter a dirty look and given the bullshit of "it is a sin to even doubt this history" . So it basically comes down to blind submission and subjugation. Believe this or bad and horrible things will befall you and your children.!!!!.

I mean, all those other islamic countries are hosting concerts by j.lopez and are gradually raising their status among other nations of the world and here in iran we have to settle for this total drivel. They never grow the f...up and they will never learn.

This religious bunch also has a tendency for duplicity , meaning that at the same time that they promote their hocus pocus , they never stop gobbling up properties in here and in the west, strenghtening their capitalistic tendencies yet hiding if from public view.

This is the real Sh...fest that this nation is drawn in and there is no hope of getting out of anytime soon. 

I have been back in this shithole for sometime now, but i make sure to minimize my social contact and be extremely exclusive about it, because as it turns out these idiots are breeding like god damned monkeyes or rats. 

Mehrban jaan, 8 thumbs down simply means that people see this guy (leftist...) in the same light as they see the islamists - both share the blame for what we see today in our ancestral land.

Baba when a fraction (1/X) of the population votes its representatives into office and those representatives nominate a priminister and the King approves the nominee, you can't call that system a true democracy! The reason being, the majority (Y 》1/X) of the people couldn't or wouldn't or didn't participate in the process for variety of reasons ( they were illiterate, uninformed, misinformed, disenfranchised, etc. ) This system is best described as a bunch of elites fighting amongst themselves as to which one has a bigger you know what! The conclusion we draw here is that Mosadeq was not democratically elected because there was niether a democracy nor a democratic election! BTW, 》means much greater than sign which implies there was not a critical mass of populace to participate in the election process of the representatives. As they say, QED. Tell me if there is a flaw in my logic!

The same people who were acquiesced (I.e., whose arms were twisted) voted for Bani'sadr also saw Khomeini's face on the Moon! There has never ever been a democratic election in Iran due to the fact that the democratic means, apparatus, institutions, logistics, constructs, elements, etc. have never existed there! Using, Obama's infamous quote, putting lipstick on a pig or camel still makes it pig or camel!

The King's deviation from being a symbolic figure head to micromanaging/ruling (especially in the Iranian society and especially under the conditions where many of the priministers and the the King himself were subject of assassinations) is a topic of discussion that requires lots of kinematics, dynamics, random processes, etc. concepts. Yes sir, folks spend their lives studying and analyzing determinstic, random, and chaotic systems to understand how normal functioning systems transition into chaos and vice versa! The late Shah's regime and its ruling behavior vis a vis its citizens is very well described by these concepts.

Samsam Jaan, as far as I know Mohamad Reza shah stated his obedience to the constitutional monarchy in his oath. In his famous speech at the height of the last revolution where he confessed that mistakes had happened, his main promise was to conform to the rule of the constitutional monarchy. It means he was aware that he was a constitutional monarch and that he had ignored the law in that instance.

Well, I tackled this subject about 4 years ago in my Shakespearian blog, "Shah's Mid-Summer Night Dream" and many of you commented back then.

Let's take a trip down the memory lane!

http://iranian.com/main/blog/faramarz/shah-s-mid-summer-night-s-dream.html

Samsam jaan, I think you are ignoring some very important facts. The Iranian constitution with exception of the added amendment did not change between 1906 and 1979. Shah took his oath in the Majles in accordance to the constitution in an event managed by the prime minster Foroughi who was a staunch advocate of the constitutional monarchy.

I have to differ with you on the other points too. Reza Shah had the choice to declare a constitutional monarchy as opposed to a republic. He was not offered the choice of an absolute monarchy and that would have not been tolerated so early after the revolution.

I agree that Shah was weak in his last days but cannot accept that he would allow anyone to include false claims in his speech. He clearly declares the exact words of the constitution when he defines the monarchy.

Lastly, I really like and respect Farah Diba and cannot understand why she has been the target of so much attacks by people who try to find any reason for the fall of the Shah, many of them being the very corrupt people who corrupted the system and were the cause of that downfall. This is not of course addressed at you my good friend. It is my general observation about some so called monarchist.