Blog
Comments
fozolie 's Recent Blogs
The Pandemic in Iroon
fozolie | 4 years ago
0 343
Will Bojo or Corbyn be the British Mossadegholsaltaneh?
fozolie | 4 years ago
0 527
The Absurdity of Iroon in one Picture
fozolie | 4 years ago
4 464
As Gaza Faces Famine, Israel Cuts Ties with UNRWA and U.S. Halts Funding for Critical Aid Agency
Viroon | 5 hours ago
0 37
Category: None
Iran's Silent Crisis: The Systematic Oppression of Azerbaijanis
Viroon | 5 hours ago
0 18
Category: None
May I ask an honestly frank question?... Why is it that your Farsi can't match your English?... and you ain't the only one...Where have you guys been throughout your lives?... where were you born?... where did you grow up?... some of you remind me of the late prime minister Hovayda, who had to learn Farsi later in his youth, and as such he remained totally detached from "true" Iranian culture... Who are you guys?... of what breed?...
Hey Antsy,
Are you jealous? LOL
Seeing your avatar I was expecting something on the content. I’m not so worried about the culture and the Iranians inside the country. I’m more worried about Iran’s future, if some of the folks in diaspora take control. Like Japan, Iranians should let Americans write Iran’s future constitution.
WHo put a quarter in Antsy Again???!!!!
Comrade Antsy, behind the snide remark about detachment and insidious emphasis that somehow the decayed lowest common surviving denominator of a culture is its “true” variant, is the real truth of your lot kissing the shoulders of the one in 1978. The one whose vitriolic hate-filled mantra has been driving your lots’s cultural myopia.
The blog was not intended for your generation but for the second and third generation most of whom do not have “Fazi”. To answer your other pseudo-patriotic rant:
رفیق خارشت علاج نداره.
Dear FtG
It is always great to hear your point of view. A few thoughts in response to your points:
2. Beg to differ: the Kharabati school was encouraged by the Mongol rulers and governors as a propaganda tool to quell any thought of resistance.
3 ( and general commentary on 4/5). I am constantly aware that in these unfortunate times a critique of Sufism can be associated with this despicable regime making a reasoned discussion very difficult. Because of the cruelty dished out I did ponder whether it is not the time but hopefully when you read my comment below perhaps you understand why the need to bring it all into the open is overriding
Erfan was a codec for the original Sufi thought which was essentially an Iranian movement that was not allowed to be in the open. The Sunni rulers (those who had Hallaj killed or later Nezam el Molk) were so fearful of its anti-Islam anti-Shariat ideas that they eradicated them and their works. But the secretiveness made it pernicious. That is why the same Shites you refer love to (to mis)use Erfan. You only need to look at their literature interpreting the Erfan codec for their miserable aims. They recognise its destructive value as a propaganda brain-washing tool
Fozolie, Sorry if I sounded too argumentative or confrontational. This cold weather is getting to me. I gotta move to Florida or somewhere. Tired of being trapped indoors.
Long ago, I once was seriously considering an offer from Fatemeh Keshavarz and Kara Mustafa at WashU to do a graduate degree in Sufi studies. Thank heavens I decided otherwise and ended up in healthcare.
Sorry for being a late comer, I don’t know how I missed this excellent blog!
The problem of targeting Erfan and Sufism is that you can never 'target' them because they are never 'defined'. A modern thinking needs to 'define' a thinking in order to defend, attack or leave it alone. Brain numbness and 'Absurdity of Thought in Religious Culture' as Doostdar put it [and he put it specifically in Iranian context] never let itself to be a 'target' because it is never what you attack. You attack something that you need to define. Brain numbness refuses any definition!
Dear FtG, I did not find it argumentative but valuable.
Dear Benross, I was wondering where you were. It was wishful on my part to think that discussion could be postponed :) by focusing on the palpable effects of complete corruption and decay of anti-religious ideas (movments of Iranian thought inclyding Sufism) ideas or the encrypted messaging system deployed namely Erfan. It was designed on purpose as a cipher, hiding the meaning so the messenger would not be shot (tortured, hung and quartered in most instances).
Here comes the Catch 22: because these movements, except for some and then only for brief periods, could not function in the open their leaders or subsequent followers, friends in the know in Erfan parlance, resorted to encryption methods like Erfan to carry their anti-dogma anti-Shariat messages. That encryption, that necessity for secretiveness (over time) caused the corruption itself (as they internalised or pretended to internalise the religious tenants of whatever was the ruling dogma of their time) and in some cases turned these movements of thought into other new absurd religious cultures.
https://youtu.be/ZdqbQeTheRQ
Are you fellows talking about this stuff, or should I keep digging?