Let me first declare: I’m not a Trump fan. I did not vote for him, mainly because of his environmental and economic policies and his pandering to the religious right--- and also because he’s insane and has no ethics. That being said, what always amazes me is that the majority of West residing Iranians that I encounter are completely batshit, lunatic liberals of the Noam Chomsky type—even the younger generation. They go batshit crazy every time a Republican politician does or says the slightest thing. They tweet, post on Facebook, write petitions, and some even put on Chafiyehs and protest in the streets of NYC. But when you ask the same people about the government of Iran---the ultimate personification of a right wing religious government---, they engage in the most severe type of acrobatics of bullshit and bend over backwards (to the extent that their craniums get inserted into their rectums) to rationalize, justify, apologize for, ignore, and divert attention from the Islamic Republic—one of the most brutal and barbaric regimes the world has ever seen. I mean, for Nature’s sake, the IR is the ONLY regime in modern history that has attacked embassies and has taken diplomats hostage. Not even Pol Pot, Stalin, or Hitler stooped this low to attack diplomatic missions. But ask the average West residing Iranian about the hostage taking by the IR, and the bullshit acrobatics begin: well, it was just a “thing” at that time, it was a revolution…and of course, my favorite: what about 1953?
Can someone explain this apparent disconnect and split personality of the Iranian diaspora? I sure as hell can’t…and trust me, I’ve tried.
Short answer: No. There is no explaining westirani or Irani behavior.
Long answer: honar nazd iranian ast o bast.
hashieh: And yet many support Trump in hope of this crook saving them. Iranians have been invaded, defeated, beaten and brought to their knees so many times from North, South, East and West since Sasanids that they have developed this strange demeanor that mostly resembles chameleons. This sub-species can improvise anywhere, anytime, on any topic, and can fool even themselves and not know it.
Good piece. I suspect your questions are rhetorical.
I don't know who is this they that you are talkign abou? Iranians like any body else have diverse opinion on issues. yes sadly some like IRI regime, majority don’t like it but feel powerless to do something about it, some are neutral on things (whichever way the wind blows!). I honestly don't know if west residing IRI cheering crowd are any worse than crazy libs in U.S with their incoherent , obnoxious whinings which may explain this recent new love for Islam by libs!!!
If you watch the 7x24 monarchist Los Angelesi TV's, you will get a completely different slice of the west-residing Iranians. With the exception of a small pocket of pro-regime crowd in Orange County, it's all elderly and pro-Trump.
Actually, I'm not sure who you're talking about but most die-hard monarchists (both fake and legit) some how believe that the GOP is their savior!.
By the way AO, you said:
"I’m not a Trump fan. I did not vote for him, mainly because of his environmental and economic policies and his pandering to the religious right--- and also because he’s insane and has no ethics."
That is excatly why I dislike Trump and his ass-kissing of the Religious Right.
However, this post will be a hit among the multiple userid Trump ass-kisser here...if it is not too much to understand for him..........wink wink!
Thanks for the comments. I think Shashoo is right on most of his/her points. I've always thought that Iranians have an uncanny ability to make themselves feel better by rationalzing things, and by making false comparisons and justification, i.e., Iran is not the only theocracy in the world. There's the Vatican!
The monarchist bunch are a small, dying breed. Monarchy is gine from Iran, for good or bad. It won't come back. These folks are hart-o-poorting, that's all. That is not to say that Shah was not probably the best ruler Iran had in centuries, but he's gone, and that's that. I haven't watched an LA Iranian TV station for years--perhaps even ten years. I'm basing my obersvations on the interactions that I have with folks that I meet. Most of them, young and old, are untra-liberals when it comes to U.S. politics, but they defend, justify and rationalize the ultra-conservative regime in Iran--something which makes absolutely no sense. And the bigger tragedy is that I see a lot of these folks portraying a sanitized portrai of the I.R. to their children while they take them for summer trips to Iran, thereby creating another generation of IR firendly Iranian-Americans.
I'm a true liberal (as opposed to the misguided Code Pink, ultra-politically correct type), and as such, I stand against religious oppression, and interference of religion in people's lives, both in the U.S. as well as other places like Iran. That being said, it's also the epiome of ignorance to compare the efforts of the religious right in the U.S. with the theocracy in Iran. There's no comparison. One lobbies within the framework of a robust democratic system while the other is a medieval, barbaric theocracy.
AO, you had me until "robust democratic system". While it is not comparable to slimic pubic, it is anything but robust or democratic. The relish right has pulled every slimy trick in the book including anal and digital sex with Putin.
More like west residing iranian speaking Arabs! And you have a good selection of them right here!
And nothing wrong with them! Just following a simple law of Physics about action and reaction!
That is each time Trump and his team push that chomagh deeper into the mataht of Ali Hitler Khayeh many, this crowd scream louder on Internet hoping for Trump to be impeached or something like dat!
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I guess I’m one of the very few who's residing in the West has had an opposite effect: When I first came to the US as an adult, I was very sympathetic to the clergy and Shia, and used to cry while listening to that depressing ‘Neinava’ album while recalling memories from the Iran-Iraq war. Heck, I was even a mokkaber in the local masjed here, and I used to spend hours fighting Zionist users on CNN’s message forums! Fast forward 20 years, and I am so disgusted with Iran, it’s ass kissing khaayeh mal people and the Shi’a cult, that I named both my kids after non-Iranian Jewish celebrities, and I honestly believe there should be Eugenics laws passed to screen Iranians from breeding. Shias should in particular become ‘akhteh’ (to use the religious vocabulary) because they are super fucking morons. I’m not a Trump supporter either, but god bless Reza Shah. At least he didn’t try to fucking brainwash us like IRI did for the past 40 years. Being Iranians, we’ve all lived a fucking lie. And we suck. Iran is factually a shithole. It is now. Because it has people as dumb as fuck.
Fes--You know I've been saying the same thing about Iranians for a long time dude. How dumb are Iranians? They're so fuking dumb that they saw an image of a guy on the moon in the 20th century--and that included their "intellectuals" and, of course, poets. They're so fucking dumb that they thing a guy who has been living in a well will be their end times savior. And we're not just dumb, we're dumb AND f--king "por-roo." We're so dumb that we walked by pools of oil of the ground for centuries--and not even f***king once---were curious enough to ask what those black liquids were. So, a bunch of people from a country that had never seen the stuff had to come and tell us what the stuff were and build us refineries. And when they asked for their cut--whcih they were more than entitled too because of our intellectual laziness--the obnoxious "por-roo" in us came out and were up in arms that they're stealing our wealth away. As if they had to do all of that for us for free--because, of course, we are Iranians, a great nation, that is so great that a Jewish guy from New York City had to come and tell us what the ruins of Persopolis were, because we were too f***king busy writing about, and reseraching the smell of poop of a bunch of dead Arab guys.
I'm telling you man...I always wonder how some of us have gone through Ivy League colleges. Must be a genetic mutation.
I was at a friend's house recently and a young Iranian couple, both recent arrivals from Iran, and both medical researchers at my alma mater, were, as is usual for Iranians, were acting as know-it-alls, and were tearing themselves about attacking Trump and saying that he's destroying the American democracy by appointing conservative judges. Aside from the absurdity of that assertion (which I won't get into) within the same breath they were bah-bah and chah-chah-ing how great Iran is today, and that they won't really take you to jail anyomore and beat you up for bad hejab, and you just get a warning on the street!! The whole thing was so surreal that in order to stop myself from blowing up on them I just went outside for a walk in the sub-freezing temprature. F***ing unblievable.
Dear Shashoo--fair enough. IMO, the system is not perfect, but it's the best that I have seen, and I've been to a lot of places around the wrold. I think that the unique type of American federal system protects democracy. I live in a very blue state, and our state is taking Trump to task on the environment, immigration, and various other things on almost a weekly basis, which is great, and they have been quite successful so far.
As an aside, I think the worst thing that has happened to the liebral cause is that it has been hijacked by extremist who have no idea what liberalism stands for. The same can also be said for the conservative cause in the U.s., BTW. But back to liberals, the institutions are being taken over by extremists and apologists for dictators and foreign entities. As much as I like Obama, his State Department's Iran operations (as well as his White House's Iran operations) was heavily infiltrated by Iranian agents ating under the guise of liberal oragnizations. I mean, when Code Pink becaomes the face of the liberal movement, it's time to do something. Liberalism always stood for freedom from religious tryanny, not for apologizing for and embracing it. But that's a subject of another blog.
Incidentally, for anyone who wishes to see an example of a West residing, IR supporting, fake Iranian "liberal," they should visit Leila Zand's Twitter feed, where she complains about all the injustices in the world except---wait for it----the IR!
Trump caters to the Religious Right as they are one of the main support pillars of his so called presidency and the ones who prop him up and try to keep him there. If you believe that Reli Right in the US is "democratic", you have forgotten that Religion in general - and by nature - is anti-democratic...But yes, the only reason the US is not a theocracy (yet) is the system of checks and balances, so thank goodness for that.
BTW, the couple you met, did you ask them if they plan to return to iran under the current regime?
Of course not! They're here to saty, although I assume that they highly enjoy their summer trips to Iran!
Trump made it amply clear in his SOUS that he has issued directives to expand hotel GITMO to accommodate subversive and treasonous individuals who are hell bent to betray America! That includes 9 out 10 US residing iroonies! Zolfali and myself will be honored to be the designated drivers drving the inmate bus full of malijacks to the resort GITMO!!!
Jock--you should start with this terrorist, who's posting articles on Iranian.com. As a reminder, this guy was the IR "ambassador" (i.e., chief terrorist) in Germany when the Mykonos restaurant terrorist murders took place, and he was implicated by German / Austrian police as an individual with possible connections to the planning and execution of those terorist attacks:
https://iranian.com/2018/01/29/missile-dialogue-iran-west/
You can then go to this caharcter for your second passenger pickup:
http://iroon.com/irtn/photo/8720/
Speaking of all these characters, does anyone remember the Hafez lady from the old iranian.com site and her America bashing, IR praising speech at an event with Trita Parsi that even shocked Parsi? It was captured on video. She was another peace and love, poetry loving, kind, lovy-dovy, "lateef" West residing, know-it-all Iranian.
We dont have Lady Hafez here. But we have Suri joon! Claiming to be also a "Lady"!!!!! She might know this lady hafez!
On persian side, We also have Manooch Zanjiri, copy and pasting kos o sher he must find in the maataht of Sed Javad Zarif, 24/7 !!!
Zolf- dude, you don't remember the Hafez lady? She would post blogs about Hafez quite frequently, and she also had a Hafez class at her house where she claimed she taught people about Hafez poetry and philosophy. Anyway, that whole peace and love, lateef image of hers went to shit when that video of her came out screaming atop her lungs about how bad the U.S. is toward the peace loving IR. Even Trita Parsi was surprised. He was taken aback by this woman frothing at the mouth against the U.S. it was surreal.
Porroo. That’s exactly what Iranians have become, AO. Porroo and por tavagho. Shouting marg bar amrika, but expecting everything in return.